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October 07 2013


When I finally pull into the church parking lot with our son Ethan babbling in the back seat and tossing toys, I feel like I’ve just accomplished a major feat before 10 am. I’ve fed him breakfast, cleaned up a little bit of the mess in the kitchen, mostly scrubbed him clean, wrestled him into submission long enough to change his diaper, slipped both socks into place fast enough that he can’t pull them off, held his feet still long enough to fasten the Velcro on his sneakers, and stocked the diaper bag with a back up outfit and a few choice toys before properly snapping him into his car seat.

By the time I’m carrying Ethan up the steps to church, I’m sweaty and feeling a little frazzled. I’m trying to calm myself down to focus on worship, to be kind and patient in the crowd of people, and to remember to hold onto Ethan’s nursery number.

When we arrive at the nursery, it’s dark and empty.

Uh oh.

The volunteers in the next classroom over confirm there’s no one in the nursery today.

My wife and I have talked about this for a long time. We’ve been meaning to volunteer in the children’s ministry at our church, especially the places where we need support ourselves. However, this semester feels like a fire drill for us with our daily schedule filled to the minute with work spilling into the early morning and late evening for us most days. With some added responsibilities this semester, we rush from one hurried goodbye to another.

Church has been mostly miss since Ethan’s nap only recently moved back far enough in the day that we can attend church with him.

He’s been in the nursery maybe six times. All the same, I feel the guilt of expecting other people to make sacrifices so that I can enjoy a peaceful Sunday. I really counted on someone being there this Sunday so I could worship for a few hours, although I’ve never made the same sacrifice for others. As I paced the back of the sanctuary, I thought about the tension that a place like the church nursery brings up every week.

A big part of Church Nursery Guilt (CNG) is that every parent has burdens and struggles. We all have our limits and issues. We haven’t known what each Sunday will bring, so it’s hard to commit to much of anything for four Sundays in a row. We’re always grateful for those who help in the nursery, but gosh, I don’t think we’ll be able to do much until January.

I  ponder that limitation as I see all of the parents who have joined me in the back of church to rock our kids, to let them run around, and to supervise their crawling across the floor that has paperclips and bit of broken tile here and there.

* * *

The biggest part of CNG is that I can see how we all just need to make a few sacrifices in order to benefit the many. It makes me feel petty and stupid that I haven’t jumped in yet. Can’t I just suck it up and plan four Sundays for the nursery?

And then I think about how erratic our Sundays have been over the past year. How often have I made it to church on time if at all? It feels like adding one more responsibility will send our jam packed lives tumbling over. And when I think of burning out or having a major breakdown, the first thing I think of is how we don’t have TIME for that to happen, let alone put it all back together.

I’ll bet all of the other parents holding their kids with me felt the exact same way.

I’ll bet they all felt CNG too.

Who blinks first?

* * *

This is the tension you get in a church that is primarily made of young families. There are droves of kids and a smaller contingent of exhausted, busy parents. Everyone is hungry for a few moments of peace and quiet, just a little time to sing a song, pray, or to think about a passage of scripture.

We spend our days thinking, planning, and giving, and sometimes one more place to think, plan, and give feels like the end of the world.

Even if I do try to pitch in a bit more this January, the problem will remain. There’s never enough people for children’s ministry. That’s one of the rules of church. I’ve never attended a church that didn’t struggle to fill children’s ministry slots every month.

If I had a free hand yesterday morning, I wouldn’t have pointed it anyone other than myself. And I know that there are plenty of others who felt the same way.


  1. Bonnie-Jean

    Oh Yes! Thanks for saying what so many of us feel. You described it perfectly – that tension. I found sunday church so hard once I had kids. I literally felt panic rise in my chest when I was asked to help out in our creche. My husband actually ended up saying ‘no’ for both of us. He’s better at saying no than I am. I felt justified in saying no though as I’d been a youth leader for over 10 years – wasn’t it only fair that others now serve me??? Totally the wrong attitude I know!!! And even that didn’t lessen the ‘church nursery guilt’ I felt. I held off until my youngest was 12 months and then helped out for a couple of years – mostly with a resentful heart. I’ve sheepishly withdrawn myself from the roster again recently……

  2. Jen

    Ed, truth.

    My kids are well beyond nursery age, and when they were little we attended a church packed with nursery volunteers (some of whom were paid). But it was such a gift to me to drop off our babies and have one hour of not parenting. It was also a gift to pick them up again and hear what staff had to say about our brilliant angels.

    I am now the coordinator of the nursery at our tiny little church. We only have one or two babies at a time, and one volunteer every week. If someone doesn’t show, another person jumps in as needed.

    Here’s the thing. When we dedicate babies, we promise to raise them up and support their parents. I consider it a blessing to hold someone else’s stinky baby so she or he can just sit for a damn minute. I feel strongly that if we agree to raise up a child, we have to volunteer in one way or another to rally around tired parents. I also feel like the nursery job is for people who have older kids or no kids (in general, no one yell at me). Why ask a tired parent to hang around his baby and eleven others? Of course, that’s an ideal world. If we’re not watching the babies, then how can mamas and daddies grow?

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we could all serve in areas of skill and giftedness? If we could leave our baby so we could go teach adults, or stuff envelopes or play music?

    • Ed

      I think you’ve articulated the tension we face at our church. The folks in charge of children’s ministry have done a great job, but the majority of people in our church have young kids. Thanks for understanding. I used to be Mr. Volunteer everything in church, and now I’m Mr. Show Up When I Can, it’s hard to escape that nagging sense that I “should” be doing more even if it really feels like I can’t right now.

    • Joan

      Exactly what I was thinking, Jen. Mine are 14, 18 & 21. I happily volunteer (with my 14 yr old) to give the parents a break. I remember those days!! And I volunteered only rarely when mine were little. It’s a pay it behind kind of thing, I suppose.

    • beth

      Jen YES YES YES!!!!This is so my heart. I am turning 50 this year, I raised 4 kids, most of my 26 years of marriage my husband and always ministered in some way in the church or for a para-church ministry.

      I was tired then and I am more tired now. I would love to rest, and feel as if I’ve done my time now it is someone else’s turn, but is it really?

      Now that I have the time, the fewer emotional demands of raising children, isn’t it now my time to give??? YES.

      I was a tired, burned out mom and wife but that’s all there were back then to do ministry. So we all did it tired and burned out. Then we went home and yelled at our kids because we were already exhausted from the 6 days before, SUNDAY A REST DAY? but seriously….

      I have stayed in children’s ministry for exactly what you said, the privilege of loving on a baby so it’s tired, burned out parents could sit down and breathe and hear the Word to be strengthened to be better parents.

      I want to turn the tide. I want us “older” people to be the ones to step up and help equip the next generation to be awesome parents.

      • Bless you. Oh bless you.

  3. Since we’ve been on the search rurally for a church, I’ve found that most of these little places don’t have a nursery. At all. So what has happened is that my husband or I try to sit with little Toddles during church (which usually ends up with one of leaving). This is a season, this busyness, this baby in arms, this catching a tidbit of sermon here or there. And I have to remind myself that being a servant sometimes means loving the kids first. He who said let the little children come must know what it means for a parent, for a nursery worker. Yes, I’d like space and time and quiet to myself, but this season will pass and I will have that…someday. Today is the season for chasing, playing, teaching, and loving. It will pass, thank goodness, along with the screaming stage. And when it passes no amount of wishing can bring it back. 😉

  4. Ellen Painter Dollar

    Pay someone to staff the nursery for you. It will be the greatest gift your church could possibly give to young families like yours. There are teenagers and older people who would love to earn some extra money by staffing a church nursery for 2 hours on Sunday mornings. As a veteran mom with three kids who started in the nursery and are now firmly ensconced in youth group, Sunday school, and church choir, I can say without a doubt that providing a staffed nursery that doesn’t rely on parent volunteers was the BEST thing that our two Episcopal churches did for us when our babies were young. It can be a paid person supplemented by a weekly volunteer if you can’t afford to pay two people. At least that way it’s a bit of a easier job for the volunteers.

  5. Oh, Ed.

    I finally gave up on volunteering in children’s ministry when I realized I was turning into the handmaiden of Satan with my short temper on Sunday mornings;) I’ve only just started helping out with the toddlers again and this because my youngest is now eight. I needed a little distance (like six years worth) to have any chance of coming out of the toddler room spiritually and emotionally alive. I won’t have the wherewithal to work with teens for at least another twenty years!

    Give yourself some grace, friend. I know I do:)

    • I’m with Kimberly. Mine are 3 and almost 2 and the thought of volunteering with the little ones makes my heart race. I’m happy to sub on occasion and serve regularly in practically any other capacity before I sign up for taking care of babies.

      I imagine it’s more difficult when a church is smaller or comprised mostly of young families. The folks I’ve seen serving the little ones with the most joy tend to be singles, young marrieds sans kids, or folks who are out of the baby stage. Which, in my knee-deep-in-toddler-hood season, seems to make sense.

  6. Yes. You’re right. But I sort of struggle with the idea that just because we have children ourselves that this is an area of the church to which we must be called to serve. Especially as a woman, I often feel that I’m *supposed* to be gifted in this area and that volunteering to care for children is one of the ways I “should” be serving the church. Though I adore my own small children (of course) I really am not a “kid person.” I would so much rather serve the church in another way– welcoming others at the door, posting on the church blog, serving the teens, meeting with other women… I feel like assuming everyone who has kids should volunteer in the nursery is sort of like assuming that everyone who sings along with worship should serve on worship team. Instead, it would seem to make more sense to just be sure we’re all plugged into the body of believers to which we belong, serving as fits the unique and particular giftings that God gave us each and us all.

    • Oh, Rachel! You’ve written my thoughts word-for-word. I’ve said before that though I love mine, I don’t “love kids”. Give me a room of teenagers any day.
      I used to work for a church and believed strongly in serving out of giftedness and I’m working really hard to serve in a capacity within my gifts and passions, not just my family situation. But I, too, suffer a lot of guilt at not taking “my turn.”

  7. katie hampton

    As someone who is on the other side of this argument, I don’t understand your guilt. I’m sorry to have to say that. I don’t have kids and I find myself volunteering in children’s ministry because no one else will do it. To be honest, I’m a little burnt out. I hope that your season of busyness and craziness passes and you don’t feel any more guilt. Yet, at the same time, I truly and hopefully find that they find a way to relieve this tension. I’d like to have worship time back, too.

  8. katie hampton

    As someone who is on the other side of this argument, I don’t understand your guilt. I’m sorry to have to say that. I don’t have kids and I find myself volunteering in children’s ministry because no one else will do it. To be honest, I’m a little burnt out. I hope that your season of busyness and craziness passes and you don’t feel any more guilt. Yet, at the same time, I truly and hopefully find that they find a way to relieve this tension. I’d like to have worship time back, too.

    • Ed

      Maybe it’s time to have more conversations with the parents of children so that you can understand them a bit better. I’ve been a burned out church volunteer before we had a child and before my wife started working on her PhD, picking up the jobs no one else wants, and I understand how you probably feel trapped and unsupported and unappreciated. There aren’t easy solutions here.

      • katie hampton

        No, there really aren’t any easy solutions. I do know, though,that I personally do not want to heap any guilt on parents of young children. I really and truly don’t.

        I suppose me telling you that I don’t understand is because, well, I just don’t have kids and while I’ve heard countless stories of lack of sleep and the frazzled life, I’ve never lived it.

        I agree with whomever said that as a church we covenant with the parents to help raise them. I guess that’s why I’ve signed up for nursery and AWANA and now, another Sunday per quarter in the nursery. I want those kids to know LOVE — the love of Christ and his followers — from everyone, not just their parents and I want them to know a safe, real place. Anyway, I ramble. All of that to say, I empathize with you and hope that you don’t rack yourself with guilt.

  9. I remember sitting in church as a young married couple and the pastor mentioned needing people for the church nursery. He pointed his request to the parents with older kids or grown kids saying remember when you had babies and toddlers and desperately needed to be in that pew. And then he suggested to those of us who had not yet had kids yet that maybe this would be a good season of life to minister to the people we would someday be, to make some deposits into our church nursery banks so that when we had those babies and were frazzled and anxious and desperate for a quiet moment of worship we wouldn’t feel CNG. My husband went out and volunteered to serve each week in the 2s class and I signed up to hold babies. After three kids, I am so incredibly grateful to each of the Sunday School workers that has shown the love of God to my boys.

  10. Laurie Andrews

    I have been through the exact same thing
    at every church we’ve attended in our 27+
    year marriage. Our daughters were 12 years
    apart in age. So I was blessed enough (grrr)
    to get to experience it more than once. I
    can’t tell you how broken hearted it would
    be as a homeschooling stay at home mom
    when I’d rush around getting everything
    ready so excited to sit in the pew with
    other adults on a Wednesday evening
    service and be fed only to have no one
    show up to do the nursery. I’d sit and hold
    my child and wish I’d just stayed home
    and rested. So many times she was the
    only child too. I felt lost and forgotten and
    I couldn’t understand how a church of
    300 couldn’t find enough people willing
    to love on the little children of the flock?
    In both cases I became so frustrated that
    I simply took on the responsibility myself
    so that other mamas could sit in the
    sanctuary and be refreshed and restored.
    But I did it so well that I had a very hard
    time being allowed to step down. (This
    is why people get burned out, BTW.)
    Anyway, I think the church needs to realize
    just how tired young parents are as well
    as making sure they assign the same value
    on nursery/toddler leaders that they do
    on all other forms of ministry within the
    congregation. Thank you putting into
    words what every parent has probably
    felt at one time or another. 😀

    • This. Yes. I’ve thought before that I’d be better off staying at home and listening to the podcast. At least I could do it during nap time and not have my toddler squirming a hole in my lap, or talking about the ‘lights’ on the ceiling. I think that when people get past the ‘littles’ age, they think they have put in their time. And those of us starting the era need encouragement that we will make it through the exhaustion, the survival stage. Thanks for your words of grace.

  11. At our church there are multiple services, so on the weeks we volunteer, we can still attend the next service. Once our daughter was ready to be in nursery care, my husband and I volunteered to serve for one service, once a month. It’s not the most convenient thing for us and we always sigh a bit on the Saturday night before, but I don’t think I should use a system without contributing to it. And my 3 year old daughter always adores it when mom and dad are the teachers for the hour. (We plan on serving in her class until she wants independence.) I hear your guilt, but is really think the system should be a co-op – you get to withdraw if you deposit, even if it’s only once a month.

  12. Donna C

    We attend a very small church, with the only children attending being my 4 kids and another family with their 4 kids. The other church-goers are mostly in their 50’s. Because nothing was being provided for the kids, us 2 mums have created a children’s program for our own kids and run it every Sunday for several years. When we asked the church for volunteers to help once every couple of months, we were told by almost everyone we approached that they’d done their time with their own kids. I was horrified at the selfishness of this view… and when I expressed my feelings, was asked if I’d want to be helping with kids at church when I was 50? I replied that I’d been helping out with kids ministries in one form or another ever since I’d been in church, and I didn’t see that changing!
    Don’t have any answers, but I do most definitely share your frustration.

  13. Lisa

    Having not heard more than maybe 10 full and about 10 partial actual church sermons in 2.5 years makes me qualified to comment methinks.

    And I’m a pastors wife.

    I do rock up to church late or just on time often. I forgive myself this. But I have no idea when they say they can’t commit to four weeks in nursery. Really? Maybe just one or two a term then? Arent you looking after your kid anyway? Seriously, swap out if you can’t do it on the day or the week but grow up…. And stop making the sermon your ‘big deal’ or the service itself your need!

    (& also don’t feel guilty leaving bub when you do as well because lots of people do enjoy looking after your baby in crèche!)

    I have very clingy kids (sadly when one got less clingly the other became so) so I mostly just hang in the crèche/mothers room etc during church. I have wonderful conversations with the other people (mostly women) that are either in there as mothers or helpers.

    This to me is still church. Some days i do wish to just do church services like I used to, sing, listen, leave. But I’m not a consumer, I’m a mum with young kids. The relationships are church, the playing with other babies and watching my kids play is church, praying for the little ones I get to know is still church, chatting with tired mums is still church, speaking to the older ladies who help in crèche is joyfully still church. People are church . Get your consumption, teaching from books, from Sermons online. Worship in what you do. If tou like to sing put on a cd. And take joy in the season you’re in. It soon passes and leaves us longing again..

  14. beth

    I get it, I am 50 and raised 4 kids while serving most of our marriage in the childrens ministry. I am still doing it not because I have a burning passion for babies but I do have a burning passion for parents, especially young moms.

    I posted already that I am older, have more time now and less struggle now that all of my kids are grown but I am struggling with so much of what I am hearing here.

    I kind of have to say it kind of makes me want to quit. If every parent that used nursery worked nursery in most churches they would be on a rotation once every 6 weeks or so.

    I have once again committed to the nursery ministry and I am hearing the same thing, so once again at 50 as at 25, 35 and 45 I am working most Sundays, not sitting with my husband and not hearing the sermon because nobody can be bothered to deal with other peoples kids.

    I get it that we all have lives and families and we need time. If I had it my way my generation would always be the ones to step up and start working and giving so that young families could just do life.

    The reality however is that most of us who did all this ministry stuff while our kids were young are used up and burnt out for that very reason, so how do we turn the tide?

    My feeling is that if the people on both ends of the age spectrum started working together we could come up with some solutions that would work for everyone.

    • Kreine

      I had this great idea for an interactive, multi-generational class or service where the kids are given tambourines, drums, castanets, maracas, & other rhythm instruments so than can participate is the worship portion of the service. This would be followed by a short Bible lesson & the kids would the be taken to the back or side of the room to work on a related craft while the adults discussed & studied the passage more in-depth.

      That way, everyone is together, but everyone’s needs still get met.

      No takers at my church, though. Maybe another church could implement something similar.

      • This has been my idea of the perfect setup for church too, but find not many people are interested, either!

  15. Kreine

    Been there. Still there. (Oldest is 11, youngest is 2.)

    It’s even harder when you’re trying to find a church in which to settle down, & you have the lovely opportunity to be the large visiting family with the noisy, squirmy kids when there are no children’s workers or your kids don’t want to be left with strangers.

  16. julie

    i’ve served in our church nursery for years. it is by far the biggest need we have and we are always looking for more volunteers. before i got married and had a family i was a missionary in asia. i knew a group of first generation believers there who all traced their testimonies to one woman who faithfully shared bible stories with them every week when they were children.

    it’s so easy to focus on how burnt out or tired we are, on how we aren’t ‘kid’ people, or on how other people aren’t serving, but serving in nursery is an honor. it is discipling children that jesus loves. i completely agree that some people may not be suited for nursery work or may need a break from time to time, but the fact that this is such a pervasive problem might be indicative of some deeper issues. after all, you rarely see a lack of volunteers for the worship team.

    it is hard work, but good work so serve if you can! that’s my shameless plug with hopes that some from my own church are reading :)

  17. I’m not a parent yet, Ed. But I loved hearing about the tension you find yourself in. Thanks for your honesty. Ultimately it’s about grace though right? Grace for yourself and your beautiful wife today.

    Much love,

  18. Elizabeth

    As a coordinator of a nursery in a church of nearly 400 and works on a volunteer staff of 61 people to take care of only the 0-5 year olds who has a 4 year old and a 2 year old of her own, I find it hard to understand your view. I mean I get that we all have days where things just don’t go our way, but I am able to get me and my kids to church every Sunday that one of us isn’t sick. Many times I do this by myself because my husband has to be at church early for worship practice. I mean we can get our kids to school on time and get to work on time but not to church?
    I do love working with kids, but if at least one parent of every kid volunteered to work at least 1 time per month it would help out the situation tremendously. Don’t want to give up all of your time to be with grown-ups? Great! Get involved in a Sunday school or Wednesday night class and you’ll get fed at least once a week. I end up in the nursery sometimes 2 times a week and I can still find time to be in a class with adults.

    • Katie

      I’m with you, Elizabeth. Our grandparents did it. Our parents did it. Lots of us do it. Just get your butts to church. Why is this the one place we’re allowed to have all these excuses for not showing up?

      And if you don’t want to work in the nursery, here’s a novel idea: bring the kids to service with you where they belong. No guilt, plus the kids are actually learning how to serve God through worship rather than learning that church is just another word for daycare and playtime.

      • Elizabeth

        We actually do a lesson beginning at age 1 and the weekly volunteers don’t even have to plan it!

        • Katie

          I still believe children belong in the worship service, that lessons are for the Bible study hour and nurseries are for emergencies, but I suppose that’s a good idea if you’re in the other camp. :-)

    • Becky

      Elizabeth, have you considered that you are able to do all of this because it flows from the gifts that God has uniquely given you? I mean this in all sincerity. I am extremely thankful that God mixes gifts like yours into His church, but please remember that those gifts aren’t uniformly distributed. Are there ministry opportunities in the church that you don’t participate in because you aren’t skilled at them or they would drain you deeply, even if you sometimes have to perform those responsibilities in your own life? Would you suggest that people all take their turn, for instance, as the treasurer at our church, a volunteer position that involves being holed away alone in an office for 4-5 hours per week (more during lent and advent) doing math, tracking paperwork and compiling reports? All of us have and manage our own incomes, and we all give money to the church that has to be handled by someone, but not all of us are suited to doing additional work in that vein. For some the frustration from dyslexia or innumeracy would reduce them to tears or expletives, some would find it isolating to work alone for so long in such an impersonal way, some would obliviously make lots of errors causing big problems down the road, some would even be tempted to embezzle. Moved to a different category, it seems obvious that not everyone should take a turn managing the church’s money. For a variety of reasons, not everyone should take a turn managing the church’s children either.

      • Ed

        Thank you. That’s at least one thing I was thinking as a response to that comment. That and the fact that some of us literally do feel like we’re really on the brink of falling apart many weeks and having one more commitment really does feel like too much–and the fact that someone can’t understand that makes me really sad. Those of who feel like they’re on the brink will be less likely to talk about all of this stuff because they’re afraid that someone will just say, “I can do it and I have more on my plate than you, so suck it up and get going!”

        • Kreine

          Additionally, some of us have sucked it up and given more, more, more until there is absolutely nothing left.

          When my husband was a bi-vocational pastor, I not only had to play piano for all the services, but also lead the ladies’ ministry, AND teach children’s classes. Granted, my husband & I were the only ones with keyboard abilities who were also guaranteed to be present, but with the exception of one dear lady who took over the nursery, no one wanted to teach the children.

          Once we left ministry, what we really needed was to attend church and rest in Jesus’ arms, not get thrown right back into doing, doing, doing.

          There are many reasons parents feel unable to assist in children’s ministry. Clinical depression, exhaustion (50+ hour work week), recovering from a past spiritually abusive experience, uncertainty about their theology…the list goes on and on, filled with very valid reasons.

  19. Emily

    I think we have a double standard when it comes to expecting parents who use the nursery to volunteer in the nursery. Everyone participates in and benefits from worship, but not everyone is expected to lead worship a certain number of times per month or year. Everyone listens to and benefits from the sermon/homily but not everyone is expected to give a sermon/homily. Everyone appreciates a nicely decorated alter, but not everyone is expected to do the decorating. We recognize that some people are gifted for certain types of ministry and others aren’t. Shouldn’t this apply to the ministry of children as well?

    For the record, before my daughter was born I was a regular volunteer in the nursery for 10 years. Since my daughter was born I no longer volunteer on a regular basis, although I will offer to stay and help if they’re short handed. Personally, I think the best volunteers are the parents whose kids are past the nursery age who volunteer alongside their teenage children. I hope when my children are teenagers I can start volunteering on a regular basis again and that my children will want to serve with me.

    • Kreine

      Right now, I have a couple older children (10 & 11) who would LOVE to help out in nursery or the little kids’ worship classes. Church policy prohibits them from working in those areas until they are 12, & even then, it’s up to the teacher’s discretion whether they are allowed to stay & help. We have kind of thumbed our noses at this by having our 11 year old act as an aide to our hyper-active preschooler. That way, the little one is with a familiar person to keep him on task & the older one has the experience of filling a very real need in our church & for our family.

  20. Elizabeth

    Wow Ed. What a great piece. For some reason, it seems that hardly anyone writes about this topic (maybe they do and I just haven’t found it?). But it is SO relevant to so many of us. Thank you for your wisdom and grace…it is such a multi-faceted, difficult issue.

    We volunteer with the kids’ ministry at our church (we have 2 young kids). We would rather volunteer a little less often. It is a constant debate in our heads between

    1) this is how we serve and obey and it is a sacrifice and a form of worship and we can meet Jesus here and this is important and necessary and so on and so on

    2) who wants a reluctant volunteer with the kids? Perhaps we should we NOT step up and instead let someone with more ‘calling’ more ‘passion’ do it (but where are these people?!). We do a good job with the kids when we are there – if I do say so myself – but we’d rather be in the main service.

    I loved the point about the church pledging at baby dedications to support the child and their family….but where is everyone when a call goes out for more volunteers for Sunday School?

    Thanks for writing about this.


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